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« on: Sep 26, 2007, 08:58:28 AM »

My favorite new show from last season and my most anticipated... turned out to be just above mediocre. I was a bit disappointed, I guess I was expecting too much. What I didn't like about it mainly, was the way they were still in the 'introduction' phase... get on with it already!
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« Reply #1 on: Sep 26, 2007, 10:55:55 AM »

They are aiming for a seperate feel to each season allowing anyone to jump onboard easily. In a few weeks we will see if it is able to keep up to last seasons highs.
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« Reply #2 on: Sep 26, 2007, 05:41:14 PM »

Yeah, it was an introduction story.  A little heavy on the setup.  But I'm glad to have it back regardless.
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« Reply #3 on: Sep 27, 2007, 02:35:16 AM »

There wasn't anything wrong with it, but it didn't make my jaw drop. This is inevitable these days, though. Lost did it, I am sure Heroes will do it now. After the first season blows you away, the second season can't live up to it. It's harder for the writers to write in those awesome moments, those amazing twists. But as long as the show keeps some cool arcs going and doesn't turn into a string of stand-alone episodes, I will probably still enjoy it.

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So, who else here thinks that Hiro is going to take up the Takeo Kensei persona and become the very person he read about as a child?
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« Reply #4 on: Sep 27, 2007, 09:29:01 AM »

I assumed it was either that or Hiro will teach Takeo Kensei how to be a hero.
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« Reply #5 on: Sep 27, 2007, 01:09:27 PM »

We don't need another hero.
We don't need to know the way home.
All we want is life beyond the Thunderdome.
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 06, 2007, 10:04:22 AM »

I just caught up on Heroes. Finished season one on DVD this week, and downloaded the two episodes of season two. I don't have cable, so I only ever saw the pilot last year. I think it's a great show, as it managed to keep me hooked enough to get through season one in about a week. I tried the same with Lost when season one first hit DVD, and I lost interest about halfway through.

I was disappointed in the season one finale, because I'd actually been hoping the bomb would go off. The prospect of a war between the heroes and the authorities, as mentioned in the "Five Years Gone" episode, was really cool. Made me think of the war against the machines in the Terminator universe.

Anyway, season two appears to be off to a decent start, though it's a bit annoying that they've hit the 'reset' button with Peter.
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 06, 2007, 12:50:13 PM »

Yeah, most people where pretty disapointed with the season one finale, myself included. Too anticlimactic.
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 06, 2007, 10:17:52 PM »

Episode 2 of the 2nd season picked up a little from the first... atleast it looks like stuff is happening now, as opposed to 'starting from scratch'... again.
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 07, 2007, 12:05:33 PM »

That's true. At the same time, waiting a week for the next episode makes it feel like nothing is happening. I watched the whole first season in about a week, so I kinda spoiled myself.
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 07, 2007, 12:51:02 PM »

Yeah, that'll happen. TV-on-DVD is awesome like that, certain shows are better to be watched like that. It's also easier to follow and notice the little through-lines when you are not watching the episodes months apart. I guess that's why it's also good to re-watch a season on DVD after you've watched it on TV. That's working like gangbusters for me and Babylon 5. So much rich texture and little through-lines carried throughout the show that you really need to pay close attention to notice. But it's amazing.
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« Reply #11 on: Nov 08, 2007, 02:18:38 PM »

Tim Kring admits season 2 sux...
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On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''

But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:

THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''

THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.

THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) by weaving her in via Peter's story line is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)

HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''

YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''

Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints and we're doing something about it.''
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« Reply #12 on: Nov 08, 2007, 02:25:58 PM »

Cool. I am glad he admitted that the show wasn't living up to expectations. I honestly didn't think it was THAT bad, but it did lose a lot of it's spark.

I wonder what'll happen on the final episode. Episode 11, it'll be right?
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« Reply #13 on: Nov 08, 2007, 04:20:43 PM »

4 episodes to resolve this can't be good for HRG.... Cry
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« Reply #14 on: Nov 08, 2007, 05:26:59 PM »

His name....is Noah.
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